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Hi everyone, on this page, Home Sweet Home – Self Love for the Soul, we’re going to talk about topics on the call, and look at ways to boost our self-love when it comes to the 4th house.
You can listen to and download the recording HERE at UberC.
Chat notes with links to the charts we discussed.
Recordings and notes for Calls #2 & #3
Self-Love for the Soul
Finding the best way to bring love to the soul often isn’t through our Ascendant sign, or MC, or even the 7th house of ‘others’. It rises up around the core values of the IC and the 4th house. This is also called the “I don’t see”. A place where we like to retreat to for safety and comfort. Now, if that place is ruled by Mars or Uranus, it will be a different kind of sanctuary to one ruled by the moon or Venus.
Remember, the 4th house on an OUTER level is the home. On an INNER level, it’s the soul.
It also represents a parent (the hidden parent?) family (tribe), lineage, real estate agents, home, family, ancestors, emotional ground. Hidden processes, drives. These are NOT the things we show in our “shop window” the Ascendant, or our Public Identity (the MC).
To check into this brand of self-love, think about the sign on your IC. Your 4th house cusp. What would make that sign, and it’s ruling planets smile. Ahh…..
Self-Love for the Soul by Sign and Decan
Let’s continue the discussion by looking at each of our charts to explore self-love for the IC and also for the Moon. Do they align? Contrast?
To take the Astrology deeper, let’s look at the degree of the IC and the Moon by Decan. What ruling planet is added, or simply emphasized?
Brush up on decans here. Let’s talk about this deeper detail in terms of self-Love.
For more self-love alignment, and help with self-talk, this short post by Jeannette is perfect: Self-Love Alignment Spell
Try saying “I love that about me!” next time you feel embarrassment, shame or self-judgment.
Perhaps the reason this little sentence works so well is because it returns us to our truth – that we are complete, whole and perfect just as we are.
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Pop your thoughts in the comments. I’ll give it a go with my high contrast Scorpio IC and Aquarius Moon. I think Jeannette asked about Scorp on the call, and we didn’t get to it. (haha, my unconscious avoidance of my own I don’t see?)
I checked the GVA calender do we have a “Home Sweet Home” call today? And if so is it on Uber Conference or Talkshoe? Thank you.
Thanks Guillaume, it’s is on the calendar and the New Moon Newsletter but I’m popping out a quick reminder now. See you there!
Thank you, Kim and Jeannette for the call!
I’ve finally got back to this after events of the Leo Full Moon that shook me. Still processing.
I didn’t thank you for the Sedna reference, Kim. I’m so grateful to you for all your advice. Still processing that too…
I suppose it makes sense, this 4th house topic seems to need a lot more marinating than the other courses I’ve done.
My IC is 6 degrees Capricorn:
The healthy ambition is well developed here, along with practicality and general desire for self- sufficiency. Very capable. Can be reclusive. May work alone, but always working.
My Moon 0 degrees Aries:
This is a raw and vigorous decan with the assertive and action packed energy of Aries expressing without modification. It needs to release a potent, healthy aggression.
The self-sufficiency and reclusive tendencies of Cap make sense to me. Until one hour ago I was head of the board in our shared-ownership apartment building. I hated it. People always contacting me, knocking on the door. My therapist said “resign!” – I was anxious all the time in my home. (Even though it sounds pretty Cap to be head of a board..?) Transiting Saturn is almost conjunct my IC and if this is an indication of the themes coming up under this transit, it’s to do with setting boundaries around the private space and not doing what I think others want – thanks to Libra stellium probably.
Doing what I want is in line with the Aries Moon wanting self-sufficiency and freedom. Maybe this communal setting that I live in is even wrong.
As both the Moon and IC are in the 1st decan it’s pure Cap-Aries contrast. Energy of youth and wisdom of old age. Leaders who get things done – but in conflicting ways… I see that I have to access the Aries Moon more than the Libra Sun at home. It’s probably why I couldn’t STAND being everyone’s friendly diplomat in the apartments. I’m thinking though, that my natal Saturn – ruler of my 4th house – is in Libra, making this balancing act one of the key issues. Story of my life. At least a second decan Libra Sun and Saturn are more independent…
Phew it was hard to resign and let everyone down. I want to be liked. I almost thought of moving instead, but am now amazingly relieved.
Thanks, Kim!
Best,
Caritas
My chart: http://goodvibeastrology.com/upg/caritas-karma-chart/
Hi Caritas,
Hopefully, the posting issues are solved. I have upgraded the membership plugin too, so we’ll see.
6 Capricorn 28 is the (Capricorn) Saturn/Saturn Decan, but the (Pisces) Saturn/Jupiter/Neptune Dwad. For anyone unsure of this division of the signs go to the Signs PDF, page 12 for the Dwads.
I am guessing that Pisces influence adds a feeling of wanting peace and seclusion in your own sanctuary. No tapping on the door at all hours.
You’re right that Capricorn would want to be head of the board, but remember the IC wants to stay hidden. It’s not a role you would want to take public. so being the head of a secret society maybe, or the first chair in family meetings, ‘Silent Partner’ with deciding vote….that might suit better. The ruler of the IC is on the ASC and feels vulnerable enough making executive decisions. That Libra doesn’t really want to call the shots openly all the time.
This shows how we have to explore deeper than the surface, keyword meaning of the signs and tap their subtle nuances.
Moon at 0 Aries though, which is Mars/Mars/Mars, in the 6th house needs to be the boss. Period. You can pull off ’employee if you have to, but it will eat away at your creative spirit after a while. You need to call the shots when it comes to your own routing (which wouldn’t like unannounced interruptions in the personal environment).
As you say, Saturn is square your IC and on the Asc, and Moon is square the IC, making it challenging to build an empire, consider others, call your own shots and remain a free spirit. It’s a big and, and, and to orchestrate.
I think a good step here, which we’ll talk more about on the next call, is to find the core value most authentic to your Asc, Saturn, IC and Moon. And then, find ways to honor them all.
I’m glad you didn’t move to avoid stepping down from the position. Wow. Good call. And that relief you feel is space and energy freed up for your next creation.
Thanks for posting and sharing your insights.
xx
This is spot on, Kim! I didn’t know about the Dwads before, so that’s very interesting.
It looks like my Libra Sun is in the Aries Dwad – no big surprise. 😉
Pisces energy in the 4th makes sense and it’s lovely with a new perspective here. I’ve read Johblogs thread below on Pisces 4th, and this feels familiar:
“It’s the psychic sponge syndrome. Whatever’s going on for those you live with will be absorbed. It’s not always easy to tell the difference between what you are feeling and what someone else is…”
Being head of the board, it was the responsibility (Saturn/Cap) of protecting other people’s feelings (Libra) which made me very anxious. It wasn’t even that much work, but even the smallest thing FILLED my home and my mind (Pisces). I’m practising setting boundaries now and realise that they have to be very strict. At the moment I don’t want to know anything about anyone.
It’s also a real eye-opener that Saturn is uncomfortable in the open of the Ascendant, because it’s the ruler of the 4th. This also makes a lot of sense. I’ve always tried to make my Saturn work for me, very consciously, but often feel like it’s tortuous somehow. Because it’s private!
I look forward to finding the core values and honoring them all. Much needed clarity.
And yes, being an employee with a set routines does crush my spirit – so much, and I feel spoiled because of it. Anyway, I’m done trying and am sticking to self-employment now. 🙂
X
This is why looking at Decans and Dwads are so helpful. You’d think that Capricorn and Saturn ruled would me strong boundaries, but the Pisces Dwad is a different story.
Also, signs on cusps aren’t always a given; they can be what we want to develop. So building strong Saturn boundaries while honoring the “psychic sponge” becomes the more complex need for expression. Private expression!
SO nice to have a specific task now: Keeping strict boundaries around home. I’ve bought an Onyx necklace to remind me to keep strong. Now that focus is on it, I see how often it’s neccesary!
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Thanks Kim, I can identify with much of what you’ve written about my chart. Irrelevant to this course but the line ‘retreats from challenges’ was the most challenging for me to sit with. I think that part of me that wants to retreat is often pushed by my Mars in Cap in first house. I’m noticing when retreating results in better outcomes, it does at times. Thanks for the insights.
When reading your notes about your chart, I felt a strong sense of the wizard’s tower in the forest. Perfect – I hope that home feels that for you! Your wisdom deserves that fortress. x
It is challenging when we think it’s a ‘wrong’ response, but you’re said it…at times it results in better outcomes.Opening the mind to respect and appreciated our diverse ways of being is a powerful form of self love.
Thank you for the wizard’s tower support. I am definitely NOTICING when I have just that! xx
Hi all, just to let you all know since the first call I had begun to look more into my bedroom & see what I need to clear out & get rid of. I began with the stuff on top of my wardrobe & just took it down; next, I looked at one of my shelves & took everything off & left to the side for a bit. Will carry-on tomorrow. At the moment having a little difficulty with the task at hand.
That’s fantastic Feng Shui. Have you read “The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up” by Marie Kondo?
Keep going!
Release in your physical environment to clear the way (via the ripple effect) into all aspects of your life!)
Did a bit more clearing the last couple of days managed to throw away some of the unwanted stuff…bit more space on my shelves. I had to put some needed stuff back on one of my shelves but there’s some space there & I’m going to leave it that way. Still clearing to do but, making a small progress.
About the book you stated Kim, no I haven’t read that book but, it sounds interesting. Also, I bought the Marie Diamond Landscape Feng Shui from Learning Strategies last year on the Black Friday deal. There are 4 audio recordings & I have listened to the first 2 already will listen to the other 2 asap. Woo-hoo!
Joh’s started us off, but as promised, here’s a quick example of my chart. I have 25 degrees of Scorpio (3rd decan) on the IC and Moon at 10 Aquarius 11′ which is the 2nd decan. Let’s look at those first:
20 – 30 degrees of Scorpio is Ma/Pl – Moon. The lunar decan softens Scorpio, modifying the sign with compassion, love and the desire to give and nurture. More ‘people pleasing’ than your first 10 degrees of Scorpio, which is all Mars and Pluto. Psychic abilities strong. Conflicts between the need to contain vs express.
I find the Scorpio IC a paradox. It’s incredibly private, but also craves the intensity of intimate connections. I always say with Scorpio, if it can’t get its intensity in a positive way, it will pick a fight!
Aquarius moon is ‘open’ in a public face sense. Friendly and outgoing. Community-minded, but under the surface would rather work alone in private, the wizard’s tower in the midst of the forest. They are square as in the water sign craves intimacy and the air sign craves intellectual pursuits and well, let’s face it, can be pretty detached from feelings. Thus an Aqua moon often doesn’t know what they are feeling until long after the event. “At a safe distance…”
The home sweet home has some contrasting needs, but the second decan of Aquarius is a little lighter via Mercury’s influence:
10-20 degrees Aquarius (Sa/Ur – Me)
Increases curiosity, refinement and attention to details. Needs practical application for ideas and goals. Future-oriented. More friendly, flexible and flirtatious; less dogmatic/domineering.
My altar to home sweet home is complex. Privacy and space are part of it. Solitude AND connection, retreat AND stimulation. Intellectual AND feeling. I’ll be thinking about how to represent this, but just identifying it gives both sides of this coin some recognition.
My chart is here.
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I enjoyed listening to the call everyone. My IC is 10 Pisces and I have Saturn right there. My moon is 16 Pisces and Chiron 17 Pisces. I love being at home and when I have time off would prefer to stay home than travel. Being home alone is my happy place. Would be great to hear whatever insights you have into self love and help with self talk.
Pisces sure is about immersing in the sanctuary of home, the comfort and serenity of the inner world. It’s very important, with a water sign here, to be aware of your environment and who you let in. It’s the psychic sponge syndrome. Whatever’s going on for those you live with will be absorbed. It’s not always easy to tell the difference between what you are feeling and what someone else is. Growing up with that kind of sensitivity can be challenging for a kid. Same as having a strong Neptune where boundaries are blurred.
Joh’s chart is here, for anyone wanting to check in.
We’ll talk about the T-Square to Sun/Mercury, Uranus and Pluto, and conjunction to Saturn in the next call, so keep those energies in mind.
As for the decans, can you see that 10 Pisces 45′ Saturn, 13 Pisces IC and 16 Pisces Moon are in the second decan of Pisces? That adds the Moon to the equation, making it even MORE sensitive. Chiron is in the 3rd Decan. Here is the breakdown:
Pisces
0-10 degrees Pisces (Ju/Ne – Ju/Ne)
Tremendous longing for the ineffable. Needs to seek fulfilment through the facilitating of others.
Easy to get lost in a sea of feelings and impression. Intuitive, sensitive and creative.
10-20 degrees Pisces (Ju/Ne – Mo)
The lunar decan increases psychic sensitivity, moodiness and susceptibility to movements in the unconscious. Very giving nature. Retreats from challenges. Needs to nurture others.
20-30 degrees Pisces (Ju/Ne – Ma/Pl)
This decan strengthens and protects Pisces with a large measure of survival power. Not so likely to be victim/ saviour. Less retreating; more independent and adventurous. Most active.
Be sure to look at both rulers of Pisces, Jupiter (traditional) and Neptune (modern). Jupiter is your solar ruler as well!
Thoughts?